Hip Hop x Financial Empowerment with fintech founder, DIVINE of Solvent
Hip Hop Can Save America!March 27, 2024
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Hip Hop x Financial Empowerment with fintech founder, DIVINE of Solvent

In this episode of "Hip Hop Can Save America," host Manny Faces engages with financial tech entrepreneur DIVINE to examine the intersection of Hip Hop, technology, and finance. DIVINE introduces his platform, Solvent, which empowers system-impacted individuals through financial literacy and entrepreneurship. They discuss Solvent's mission and services, along with DIVINE's journey "from crack to rap to tech," highlighting the potential of hip-hop to inspire positive change and innovation.

Manny and DIVINE delve into the transferable skills between street life and the corporate world and the importance of financial literacy for those re-entering society post-incarceration. Quotes like, "We're bringing financial literacy to the forefront of reintegration," and discussions about Solvent's partnership with Visa showcase the practical steps being taken towards financial inclusion. This episode provides a grounded look at how Hip Hop culture can influence and elevate underserved communities through technology and finance.

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[00:00:58] You know, we know that hip-hop can uplift humanity and improve society across the board.

[00:01:01] This is every demographic, every nook and cranny, every tight person, every race, religion

[00:01:08] culture, creed all that because we've seen the receipts we know that it can work.

[00:01:11] But perhaps it's most importantly focused on helping uplift the lives and livelihoods

[00:01:17] and communities that have been traditionally left behind or under resourced or underfunded

[00:01:22] or underloved by the rest of humanity, by the white supremacist structure that exists

[00:01:27] in this country.

[00:01:28] So while it can help everyone and it should and it will and it does, it's best suited

[00:01:33] to make sure that those who have been traditionally underserved will get the benefits that they

[00:01:40] so deserve.

[00:01:42] That being said, so when we talk about hip-hop and education like we did with representative

[00:01:46] Bowman, that's one area.

[00:01:49] Education can be fixed if we incorporate hip-hop from a holistic viewpoint.

[00:01:53] We've talked about health and wellness.

[00:01:55] We talk about science and technology on this show.

[00:01:57] And one area which I love getting into because there's a lot of people who want to know

[00:02:03] how this industry or this field, this discipline can be better suited through a hip-hop mindset,

[00:02:11] the hip-hop mentality is the world of finances which always confuses me and I'm not very good

[00:02:17] at because you can tell because I'm broke all the time.

[00:02:21] But that being said, I wanted to bring on someone that I've known for a very, very long

[00:02:25] time that comes from the world of hip-hop that's come from as introduced earlier in the show,

[00:02:30] the perspective of being systems impacted, being a hip-hop head, being a very, very,

[00:02:35] very, very, very good dude and has been around in a long time and has wound up in the world

[00:02:39] of FinTech, financial technology, startups, venture capital.

[00:02:44] All the things that I'd like to know more about.

[00:02:47] So my man, my mellow, divine, I'm bringing you to the stage.

[00:02:52] We're going to get rid of this.

[00:02:53] We're going to bring you on and we're going to kick it.

[00:02:56] What up, divine?

[00:02:57] It was good, my brother, how are you?

[00:02:58] I'm doing well.

[00:02:59] I'm doing as well as could be expected.

[00:03:00] I haven't seen quite some time but it's good to see you right now.

[00:03:04] It's been a minute, man.

[00:03:07] It's great to be able to be able to achieve another man.

[00:03:09] Yeah, yeah.

[00:03:10] The privilege and pleasure is mine.

[00:03:14] As I mentioned, let's start at the end and then maybe we could go back a little bit.

[00:03:18] Let's kind of not start at the end.

[00:03:19] We'll start at the now as they, the end.

[00:03:21] It's never the end with you.

[00:03:22] Nothing ever ends.

[00:03:23] It's always forward progression, right?

[00:03:26] Right now, the reason, I mean, I've watched you and we go back and forth on time but solvent

[00:03:30] is the thing that caught my eye right now.

[00:03:33] That's I think the main baby, the main project right now, correct?

[00:03:36] Yes, yes indeed.

[00:03:37] Let's just let's just tell the people right out the gate, what solvent?

[00:03:40] What are you working on right now and you'll know immediately know why I love you so much

[00:03:44] and the work you do.

[00:03:45] Yeah, well, you know, solvent is a financial technology company.

[00:03:50] It's a mobile first, only one banking and financial empowerment platform that's focused on people

[00:03:55] who are system impacted.

[00:03:56] So when we say system impacted, what we mean, we break that up in the four segments and

[00:04:01] that's that people who are socioeconomic, disadvantaged, people who are formerly incarcerated,

[00:04:07] the family, friends and loved ones of the formerly incarcerated and incarcerated in the incarcerated.

[00:04:12] And what solvent does is the platform is really helped them optimize their financial

[00:04:16] lives, man.

[00:04:17] You know what I mean?

[00:04:18] Yeah.

[00:04:19] We do that through different ways.

[00:04:20] By having affordable tech, driven personal financial and banking tools, products and services

[00:04:25] as well as having a mix of financial literacy and empowerment, content curriculum and resources.

[00:04:33] Yeah.

[00:04:34] So what does that look like in practice?

[00:04:35] What are some of these programs?

[00:04:37] Well, first and foremost, we looked to get them individuals banked, right?

[00:04:42] That's the first step.

[00:04:43] Okay.

[00:04:44] Bank account, debit card and then we have credit, credit repair and building tools as well

[00:04:50] so they can soak because the most people that come from the demographic were focused

[00:04:53] on.

[00:04:54] Individuals come from poverty, right?

[00:04:56] People who have been affected by mass incarceration whether it's them or their family, friends

[00:05:02] and loved ones that's been incarcerated before.

[00:05:04] And dealing with the mental health issues of being formerly incarcerated.

[00:05:09] So we try to address all those type of things.

[00:05:11] Again, we go back to the credit repair and when you think about credit repair and credit

[00:05:15] building, a lot of these individuals have either a low score or no score or a very thin

[00:05:20] credit profile, right?

[00:05:22] So we look to empower them around the credit piece as well as looking at other different

[00:05:30] services that can help them resources.

[00:05:33] People come home transitioning from being incarcerated, coming back to the streets, how do they

[00:05:38] transition and get their financial foundation back in order?

[00:05:41] That's what Salvin told about.

[00:05:43] And when you think about Salvin is really how I was able to take my personal journey,

[00:05:49] coming from poverty, being incarcerated, as you know for a decade of my life.

[00:05:54] And I made a lot of money in my time, right?

[00:05:57] In the streets.

[00:05:58] I went to federal prison at 19 years old and for the most part, you know, I go on to

[00:06:02] federal prison unless you're doing something major.

[00:06:05] And I was doing that.

[00:06:06] And I seen a lot of money, man.

[00:06:08] But that money never gave me the financial empowerment I was seeking because I didn't have financial

[00:06:14] literacy.

[00:06:15] I didn't understand, you know, stocks.

[00:06:17] I didn't understand these other tools that can help you elevate your financial life or

[00:06:21] even optimize it.

[00:06:22] So that's how Salvin is more so just taking my journey and productizing, if you would.

[00:06:30] When I say productizing it, it's putting it in a system and in a process.

[00:06:36] So other people can follow it and say, okay, divine has success this way.

[00:06:41] Now everybody's going to make a billionaire like I did, right?

[00:06:43] As you know, I know to get more into that.

[00:06:45] But not everybody's going to meet a billionaire like I did.

[00:06:47] So if they can't meet that billionaire, how does the vantig when he's learned from being

[00:06:51] in that space, bring it back to those in the streets or those that are in poverty, stuck

[00:06:57] in poverty still, we're trying to get out and empower them.

[00:07:01] Yeah.

[00:07:02] What state is this solvent right now?

[00:07:05] In other words, is this something that's out to the public that can be, you know, using

[00:07:12] different parts of the country?

[00:07:13] You know, just give me an idea of like how someone would use this or get involved with

[00:07:17] this.

[00:07:18] If they had a loved one, maybe they'll just get not you know, getting out of and I needed

[00:07:21] this kind of help.

[00:07:22] Yeah, well, this currently nationwide.

[00:07:23] So it's a villa, a donation wide.

[00:07:25] So we actually go, we actually go live with our arm.

[00:07:28] We actually go live without free membership where people can come on the platform and actually

[00:07:32] learn financial literacy, engage with entrepreneurship education as well.

[00:07:37] Yeah.

[00:07:38] They have about 5,000 resources that are going to be available around entrepreneurship.

[00:07:43] And of a thousand, a 2000 of content and curriculum online classes around financial

[00:07:52] empowerment.

[00:07:53] So it goes live in the next few weeks.

[00:07:56] I make sure that I tap in with you and let you know exactly when it goes live.

[00:07:59] The bank in portion will be available in the next 90 days.

[00:08:01] So people will be able to download the app.

[00:08:04] Yeah.

[00:08:05] Google Android, download the app.

[00:08:07] Google Android and iOS app, iOS download the app and then create an account.

[00:08:13] Go and engage with the free resources, the free content, the free curriculum, sign up

[00:08:17] for the bank or the bank account debit card.

[00:08:19] Get on a wait list.

[00:08:21] So we're looking about lots of that in the next 90 days.

[00:08:23] Got it.

[00:08:24] So when you say there's a banking portion to it, sort of like not to, you know, I'm just

[00:08:28] trying to compare it.

[00:08:29] I want to say like green wood, like that kind of banking platform, not a bank bank but like

[00:08:34] another man.

[00:08:35] Yeah.

[00:08:36] Yeah.

[00:08:37] We're, we're, we're a neo bank.

[00:08:38] What they call a neo bank.

[00:08:39] I don't say we're super neo bank.

[00:08:40] Understood.

[00:08:41] We're super neo bank because we have a comprehensive platform.

[00:08:44] Right.

[00:08:45] Because don't, we just don't give you a one point product of a bank account in the debit

[00:08:48] card.

[00:08:49] Right.

[00:08:50] And we really think about a bank account debit card.

[00:08:52] Those aren't financial and proud of tools.

[00:08:55] Those are those are utility tools, right?

[00:08:57] They they they make your financial like more efficient.

[00:08:59] They make you more convenient but they don't give you financial and proud of it.

[00:09:02] And really when we look at people coming from this demographic and the target audience,

[00:09:06] these are people that really need financial and proud of it.

[00:09:08] Yeah.

[00:09:10] And so when you think about green wood, green wood is something similar to what a

[00:09:15] solveness was solveness more niche focus, right?

[00:09:18] We're focused on people.

[00:09:19] If you thought it with focus on people who are the lowest of the low, right?

[00:09:24] The people that that banks don't want to deal with but once you get on solven's program,

[00:09:28] once you use utilized our platform, you're going to turn into somebody that the banks

[00:09:32] are definitely going to want, right?

[00:09:34] And and that's what it's about.

[00:09:35] Right.

[00:09:36] And then add one last thing onto that.

[00:09:37] Sure.

[00:09:38] When you look at neo banks like green wood and these other ones that out, remember this

[00:09:42] is something I started working on in 2014, right?

[00:09:46] 2014.

[00:09:47] I started working on this but we were doing pre pay debit cards as an alternative to the

[00:09:50] sort of rush card and we wanted to have a social impact component.

[00:09:53] And that was around the financial literacy and entrepreneurship education.

[00:09:57] So I was up five years early of thinking about what a neo bank could possibly be,

[00:10:01] right?

[00:10:02] Such as with green wood and others are doing.

[00:10:04] Yeah.

[00:10:05] That sounds like you're saying that the rush card really didn't actually help people.

[00:10:08] Anyway, just moving along.

[00:10:10] I'm just my own two cents but no, I appreciate that.

[00:10:14] Having that obviously that we say niche focus, but it's an important one because it's

[00:10:20] folks that don't get that specialized attention.

[00:10:22] They have very unique needs and very unique concerns that the rest of the banking population

[00:10:28] right wouldn't necessarily be concerning themselves with.

[00:10:31] So it's important that that focuses there otherwise they get swept up and it's not even

[00:10:35] helping them directly.

[00:10:36] It's not helping them specifically, right?

[00:10:39] Exactly.

[00:10:40] No, absolutely.

[00:10:41] You hit it right ahead.

[00:10:42] Yeah.

[00:10:43] Folks who are listening by the way, my good friend Devon who I've known for a while, you

[00:10:48] might have heard him just casually throughout there that he met a billionaire because most

[00:10:53] of us do, right?

[00:10:54] At some point or another but that's actually a really interesting twist, a really interesting

[00:10:58] part of the story.

[00:11:00] It's, I don't say it's how you got here.

[00:11:03] Obviously, doing a bunch of important things leading up to this place.

[00:11:08] But tell the story of being a billionaire and how that kind of changed the direction of

[00:11:12] what you were doing.

[00:11:13] Yeah, yeah.

[00:11:14] So, wow.

[00:11:17] I was found myself incarcerated yet again at the Delaware citizen for years and you grew

[00:11:22] up where?

[00:11:23] Just to let people know.

[00:11:24] You were where.

[00:11:25] I was born in Newport, Rhode Island and then Brooklyn's my second home, New York City.

[00:11:29] Yes, sir.

[00:11:30] I was in the Maryland City of Beverly, so you know, connect with my people out there.

[00:11:34] So anywhere I was incarcerated about 10 years ago, actually 12 years ago, my last time

[00:11:40] incarcerated and I became 100% dissatisfied with my life.

[00:11:45] And when I started examining, doing an antropetial inspection, I started saying, you know, what

[00:11:49] am I going to do with my life?

[00:11:50] I always felt that I was destined for something greater than just being incarcerated and living

[00:11:55] in our crime culture because that became my culture.

[00:11:57] Crime was my culture.

[00:11:58] Yeah.

[00:11:59] Anyway, did that and I said, you know what?

[00:12:03] I really like the process of making money.

[00:12:04] I've always been intrigued with financial with the financial world.

[00:12:08] I never understood it but I knew that you could become highly successful in it and with

[00:12:12] it.

[00:12:13] And I always wanted to dig into that.

[00:12:15] But at that point, I wasn't thinking all the financial world.

[00:12:17] I was just thinking, how could I just change my life?

[00:12:20] And I came across an article about this fame Silicon Valley venture capital and billion

[00:12:25] and they've been always, how are you sip hop?

[00:12:28] How are you sip hop to tease business lessons to his employees?

[00:12:31] So that intrigued me immediately.

[00:12:33] And then what also intrigued me about him was the fact that he was a venture capitalist,

[00:12:38] was a billionaire and he was in, you know, not the financial but the technology space.

[00:12:45] And I didn't see how those connected with hip hop.

[00:12:48] I mean, hip hop comes from the struggle from the pain, from poverty, from negativity and

[00:12:55] the sense of the environment you live in and you try to get out and you sip hop to

[00:12:58] get out of that.

[00:13:00] And I was intrigued by that.

[00:13:01] I came home, reached out to him on Twitter to make a long story short, accident meant

[00:13:07] to me.

[00:13:09] We became fast friends and that man just changed the whole trajectory, trajectory of my

[00:13:14] life.

[00:13:15] And I was exposed to Silicon Valley.

[00:13:17] I was exposed to venture capital.

[00:13:19] I was exposed to, you know, former entrepreneurship as well as a startup building.

[00:13:24] High growth.

[00:13:25] High growth started building in the technology space and that was it.

[00:13:32] And as I got known for that when I entered the technology space, I started framing my

[00:13:39] story whenever I did interviews.

[00:13:41] I would frame my story from crack to rap to tech.

[00:13:45] And when you look at my life and my story, and those are the three major things in my

[00:13:50] life that have guided me throughout my lifetime.

[00:13:54] From crack was with my mother's drug addiction, right?

[00:13:58] From the crack to rap.

[00:14:00] To rap was more so when I got incarcerated, hold my skills and made a determined idea

[00:14:06] to become a professional hip hop rapper.

[00:14:07] Good notice.

[00:14:08] Not just anyone but one of the best ones.

[00:14:11] And that was when I sent my market.

[00:14:15] So not only that, but I also learned the music business while incarcerated.

[00:14:19] So I'm on record label when I came home because I wanted to be able to have creative control

[00:14:23] make the most money of my art and own my masses.

[00:14:27] So these are things I was thinking about incarcerated long before before I became.

[00:14:31] Yeah.

[00:14:32] Before you actually actually chewing on it right?

[00:14:34] Head of the curve.

[00:14:35] I always man as I was been.

[00:14:38] So with that being said, from for all of the crack to rap and then to tech piece came

[00:14:44] when I met Ben.

[00:14:45] When I learned about Ben and connected with him.

[00:14:48] Yeah well and he's known for a bunch of early startup successes just so people know like

[00:14:54] what the what it's and just sheen the harrow its and really I always get it wrong but

[00:14:59] it's far and so I'm allowed to.

[00:15:00] Yeah.

[00:15:01] He'll be mad.

[00:15:02] Don't be tell Ben Ben don't know me but tell Ben my apologies.

[00:15:05] I got the hardwoods part right so come on.

[00:15:09] So what are some of the things that they've been involved with that?

[00:15:13] I mean Facebook is a major one Twitter as well.

[00:15:18] You know a lot of these companies in the technology space that have been going on to become

[00:15:24] unicorns coin bases are good one.

[00:15:25] When we do crypto coin bases another one right?

[00:15:29] Yeah.

[00:15:30] Yeah they were in early and all these what they call high growth technology startups.

[00:15:35] Yeah.

[00:15:36] And you know they can go on to become dung and dollar value with the companies.

[00:15:39] Yeah.

[00:15:40] I mean.

[00:15:41] I'm bringing dollar value with the companies.

[00:15:42] Yeah and I mean you know this you know the story it sounds cliche right because it's

[00:15:46] like here's a guy who you wouldn't think you know could be smart and no but of course

[00:15:53] because the things that you got to go through to survive in the circumstances and da da

[00:15:58] doesn't negate the fact that you could be brilliant like you're a brilliant dude.

[00:16:02] You were brilliant in the streets.

[00:16:03] You were staying alive doing things that took a lot of managerial skills let's just say

[00:16:08] a lot of quick on your feet thinking a lot of improv and a lot of determination all the

[00:16:13] things right that they say you have to have.

[00:16:16] So but given the opportunity to say wait a minute I still have this pension for you know

[00:16:21] looking seeing the money making opportunities but my legit way let me learn the music business

[00:16:26] and start the label wait hold on let me get in the technology thing my whole like philosophy

[00:16:31] here is sort of like the hip hop mindset certainly you know coming up in in in situations

[00:16:37] like you say you know what you would you deal with with your mom and and the time and the

[00:16:42] place where you grew up like that all instills sort of genius ways of thinking into a young

[00:16:48] people.

[00:16:49] And they get very often thought of as not being capable of doing those things so you're

[00:16:54] you're not a unicorn in that fact in that sense in that a lot of young people a lot

[00:17:02] of folks who have these abilities just got to be given the right chance at the right situation.

[00:17:06] I mean yeah you hit it right now I would go so far I say the genius I think we all

[00:17:12] have genius capabilities right right but I'll say I'm very innovative right right right

[00:17:17] I have a real unique perspective on how I approach everything I've ever done in my life I've

[00:17:23] always been ahead of my time in that sense always matured for my age always learning from

[00:17:28] older individuals right myself so I learn fast I learned to pick up and adapt and I learned

[00:17:33] to master my environment no matter where that was whether that was in the streets with

[00:17:37] my mother on crack cocaine and you know trying to figure out how do I make money.

[00:17:42] What resources do I have to leverage to do that to go into prison how do I maintain in prison

[00:17:47] how do I you know I turn my prison experience into into into into my university right it became

[00:17:55] my university where I learned the things that I learned and I really focus on spirituality

[00:17:59] and of course second thing was the music business right and then you know finally I'm now

[00:18:04] in the financial technology space you know the building this company but yeah you hit it right

[00:18:09] on the head man it's like we don't have a lot of resources will be come from and we have to be

[00:18:13] very innovative in our approach to how we survive and how we how we are thrive and make money man.

[00:18:19] Yeah I mean you look at other folks that we know of and know personally folks like Nas for example

[00:18:25] who have gone in this direction where those those life skills are transferable is what I'm saying

[00:18:31] it's what I'm getting now yeah the life skills are transferable you know Nas like what's it you know

[00:18:36] the idea that that that transition from those worlds to those worlds are transferable same thing

[00:18:43] you're you're familiar right no absolutely not as somebody else that's connected to Ben

[00:18:48] yeah actually met Ben like a year before me I believe whatever it was but then Ben was very

[00:18:53] instrumental so on Nas is entering the technology space and you know doing the investments he

[00:19:01] and the success he's had in that space with Queensborough's Ventures it's more so you know salute Nas of course

[00:19:07] of course we just we're just we're him and Ben out at the Super Bowl weekend so nice

[00:19:11] you gotta got to salute them yeah sure yeah but um yeah definitely like that transition like coming

[00:19:17] from you know the projects coming from the streets taking those taking those skills and like

[00:19:24] you said they're very they're very transferable you know when the streets I was somebody who

[00:19:28] I had the source product I had the um I had the package product right I had um you know man is all

[00:19:33] these different components to make a money you know I wasn't just a lower level type of dude I was

[00:19:39] more than a managerial role and I was dealing with people like you know 10 years my age you know what I mean

[00:19:44] at the time I got I got knocked in 19 so yeah people would you know people would way older than me

[00:19:50] but I took responsibility for what I did and you know my time and and kept them moving man

[00:19:56] but I've never been someone to let to let my prison experience define who I am yeah for sure

[00:20:02] I mean if you met me you know me if you met me you would never tell I did a day in prison right

[00:20:06] right um because I'm not thoughtful about you know who I am and who I'm trying to become

[00:20:12] I can't stay stay stuck in that and I gotta keep elevating and building so

[00:20:17] yeah and you know what that's I think uh you know they always say you know was defined by you know

[00:20:21] the worst thing they did or no one's defined by the you know but you still take those experiences

[00:20:26] and obviously use them to mold and shape and and move uh to younger people I imagine you talk to

[00:20:31] young folk a lot or you know you get these opportunities to at least you know maybe as a mentor

[00:20:35] at least you know speaking to young kids um for those of us that aren't sure a lot of folks here

[00:20:40] are educators or you know listen to show whatever our educators sometimes their school counselors um

[00:20:46] what I guess I don't know gems lessons do we pass on to the young folk who might feel like

[00:20:54] they're in a world where financial success and certainly to the level of technology finance venture

[00:21:00] capital all that stuff is so far into them they just don't get the exposure to that but there

[00:21:05] no less capable of ending up there as you know what what do we say to them how do we guide them how

[00:21:10] you know take do what we do what little we can with without little you know connections to young folk

[00:21:15] particularly I think I think we're we live in an all better time and to take advantage of technology

[00:21:21] and let us that to really become self-made I mean there's so many so many directions and avenues

[00:21:26] you can go to um you know to become successful become you know financially and proud would

[00:21:32] and be able to build wealth yeah uh it's it's it's it's astronomical the abilities that technology has

[00:21:38] given us yeah to reset to reset our high level that we can that we can think of and dream of so all I

[00:21:44] can say is that take advantage of everything that's out there you know knowledge as a foundation

[00:21:48] and um you know there's no shortcut to knowledge especially knowledge learned through experience

[00:21:53] so you know dig in dive in and um and and and and and and and really don't be afraid like if you can

[00:22:01] if you can conceive it you gotta you believe it then you can achieve it how we say that you know

[00:22:06] or think and grow rich now man simple right think I see but achieve it conceive it believe it

[00:22:11] achieve it and and I've always lived by that right whatever thought I had in my mind I've always been

[00:22:16] successful on my undertakings because I always took that thought and I always built on top of it

[00:22:21] you know what I mean it's not gonna open happen overnight when you see these so-called overnight

[00:22:24] successes that's 10 years 20 years in the making for sure you know what I mean it's never overnight

[00:22:29] success but it's all about taking those steps one step at a time like um thanks uh

[00:22:35] Sun Zhu Sun Zhu said uh uh the journey of a thousand miles begins with one step

[00:22:42] so you know that's what it is it's a step don't be afraid and I think everything

[00:22:47] everything that you fit everything that you desire and life is on the other side of fear

[00:22:52] I didn't just I didn't just you know I didn't just come out having confidence I did just come out

[00:22:57] having different things you know I love is my DNA intelligence my mother my father

[00:23:01] but I still had to go through life and learn and adapt the massive different environments man

[00:23:07] I had to build up the high self-esteem I had to build up the strong self-confidence that allowed me

[00:23:11] to walk through these doors it's funny because speaking of confidence yeah um people would always

[00:23:16] ask me like oh I can't believe you you know you reached out to then that's crazy just down a third

[00:23:21] but I said I can't believe you didn't okay I can't believe you did if you can't believe I did

[00:23:27] I can't believe you didn't right well I wouldn't do I wouldn't do right they just but that shows

[00:23:31] you the level of fear they have I get it and when I reached out to Ben I just seen him as a human being

[00:23:36] I didn't see him as as a venture capitalist I didn't see him as a bringing in even my new

[00:23:39] these things about him I conducted with his spirit first on hip hop yeah yeah just how and just

[00:23:45] on how he approached approach life you know what I mean I identify with it I think the first time I

[00:23:53] heard of him was through that same article like that same like here's some business like because

[00:23:57] he's a hip hop head and he recognizes and again like we talk about here we he recognizes all these

[00:24:02] traits and characteristics that hip hop or being a hip hop you know being part of hip hop culture

[00:24:08] gives you by nature like just it's there it's part of that creativity the remix culture make

[00:24:14] makes something out of something else you know getting through the back door you can't get in through

[00:24:18] the front door so we get in through the back door we can't we can't buy the turntables so we go

[00:24:22] on stealing you know what it is you know what it is you know I mean the the wreckage skipping put a

[00:24:29] knee a nickel on top of the needle like everything about hip hop was these kind of we got no

[00:24:34] electricity we gonna plug it to the lamp or yeah from day one from day one one day one and so when

[00:24:39] people recognize that not as a yeah I do a whole actually I should tell you I got to talk to you

[00:24:44] off line by I do a whole keynote called hip hop can hack everything and it's aimed at the tech

[00:24:49] audience and so it goes through the history of hip of hip hop's connection with technology

[00:24:54] and all the things that hip hop is innovated technologically and including like you said just the day one

[00:24:59] electricity in the in the you know the park jam all the stuff grand master flash did with you

[00:25:04] know with the quick mix theory all the stuff that you know happening in all these years and it's like

[00:25:08] now I look at hip hop I've always looked at hip hop for I've been one of them every DJ is an engineer

[00:25:13] every DJ is a low key engineer you know we fix things things don't work we find it with the

[00:25:18] and so I recognize that ingenuity and it's like why wouldn't you come to the hip hop generation

[00:25:23] why wouldn't you come to someone that you know has that in his heart that remix that get by

[00:25:27] that make a dial out of 15 cents mentality that's just what we should be doing off red

[00:25:32] no no I definitely agree man and that's why you know I got love love someone's love for Ben not

[00:25:37] only because you know he changed my life and it bless me and and open up this new world to me

[00:25:42] right but because um he's authentic he's genuine and it's really rare like you know the main

[00:25:47] and in every sense of it from top to bottom yeah he's a thobble he's a thobble dude and you know

[00:25:52] I respect him and mine him a lot and um you know so big up to him man yeah indeed love it

[00:25:57] we gotta get him on a show long overdue um but yeah in the meantime so now listen I want to keep you

[00:26:01] all night I appreciate you uh you hitting I don't know where you at these days you you all all over

[00:26:06] the place you're you're your frequent fly miles is up so I don't know where you at you might be in

[00:26:12] Dubai for all I know I don't want to keep you up all night tell me once again I love solvent because

[00:26:16] uh you know friends might know he passed a little over a year ago my brother from another mother

[00:26:21] was was in and out of the system for many many years I went through it with him I was you know

[00:26:26] helping him work on his case and taking the calls and you know doing all the things you know

[00:26:31] so I did that for I mean well over well over a decade you know um so I personally know what it's like

[00:26:37] we have a lot of friends and family that have family members that have been in pain and we're not

[00:26:40] to talk about being incarcerated with foster system uh like you said just being poor and having

[00:26:45] to negotiate the uh you know the government services and all that stuff is such an important

[00:26:51] and and and I don't say I neglected a group of folks so this is important to do this is important

[00:26:58] to get the word out to folks so that they know this is available what's next for solvent how do we

[00:27:04] you know look into it more like once again how do we spread the word about it and and and who can

[00:27:09] this once again just tell the folks might be tuning in late who's this really going to help benefit

[00:27:13] and how could we help make that happen as friends and family of folks who have been going through these

[00:27:17] things yeah yeah I just think you know all across the board man solvents all about financial empowerment

[00:27:23] you know I mean so we have all the tools resources on the website www.justsalvin.com.

[00:27:29] j-u-s-t-s-o-l-v-e-n-t.com um we just got to an accelerator with visa so we just partnered with visa

[00:27:36] so we're looking forward to finishing that and you know and we raised we raising capital right now

[00:27:41] so you know we just look forward to really building a solvent out to something that you know in my

[00:27:45] mind it was something that I would want to have when I came home yeah I mean yeah uh even

[00:27:51] Tony black man I think in here you know I don't know if you know Tony blackman uh said someone

[00:27:55] here I wish I had this one I left home at 17 you know exactly not that I feel the same way like I

[00:28:02] wish I have financial financial financial literacy yeah financial intelligence I never was never

[00:28:06] exposed to that right fortunately so yeah all the money I made all the money I made which I

[00:28:10] was trying to make it to get out of that poverty right then it fit me right just put me in prison

[00:28:16] right piles of money don't isn't the answer yeah yeah prison uh chosen zulu says financial

[00:28:22] literacy is a key component in knowledge of self that's why they highlighted as the number one

[00:28:26] aspect to help you develop from day one and their knowledge of self discussions you know what

[00:28:30] that's about yeah yeah yeah and uh we're just getting a lot of love in the chat a lot of folks saying

[00:28:36] this is great um you know this is really important and uh we want to we want to you know no more

[00:28:41] about it be able to spread the word and it's something that um like I said we know uh no that's the

[00:28:45] wrong banner I got I figured out man I'm the only one pressing these buttons uh we'll get we'll

[00:28:49] get more people to know about it just sovint.com right yes sir just yeah calm all right my man

[00:28:55] freedom yeah yeah no I really appreciate I'm glad we finally linked up uh I could talk to you

[00:29:00] every six months not to say that you'll be entrepreneur happen uh because you still you know the

[00:29:05] stuff you don't just walk away from a project everything leads up to a new one yeah yeah you still

[00:29:09] do music though I'm asking I'm wondering oh so I'm I'm gonna let it be known right here in your

[00:29:13] podcast because it could be no better than letting it know in your podcast I am getting back in the

[00:29:18] music um not in a sense of you know as a profession because I'm already yeah yeah professionals what I

[00:29:23] do right right we've done it's my first love back play it more so to really drive um the marketing

[00:29:29] and push and the adoption of solvent to the younger generation and just really spread the word

[00:29:35] so I'm getting back in the lab and working with a few people we in the we in talks right now

[00:29:38] because my man tragic Adafi he's gonna be on deck no doubt on Phantom of the beats just link

[00:29:44] back up with him you know he did he uh he did 50 cent little Ken's magic stick that's right

[00:29:49] so did my he also did my uh my joint I did for Ben venture capital like Ben Horowitz yeah

[00:29:54] anyway you know just tapping into all my connections and looking to do this project man come back

[00:30:00] and do what do what I do man yeah you know this shows called hip hop to save America so you know

[00:30:05] we always to figure that people with the sort of the hip hop mindset as Toby James calls it um

[00:30:10] you know this hip hop mindset helps us take the things that are out there that exist

[00:30:16] and you know flip it right remix it make it our own and um and I guess that's uh that's you sort of

[00:30:23] I mean you sort of a textbook example of it so you know creating yo created something from nothing

[00:30:27] I call the magicomics yeah there you go that's what it is divine yo anytime you got something to

[00:30:34] talk about just hit me up man and we'll spread the word about it appreciate you brother all right man

[00:30:39] this cross bath paths in real life soon now that there's no pandemics or stuff has been a minute no

[00:30:43] my friends all right brother be safe please brother I will again divine my man divine from just

[00:30:49] solvent calm check out that uh that platform uh share it with the folks that you might know

[00:30:55] that need that kind of assistance as I said uh it touches me to my heart uh my brother uh y'all

[00:31:00] y'all might know as Coleman if you know me personally um passed away about a year now

[00:31:04] passed away a year after he got out um and that happened sometimes because you know when you get out

[00:31:10] you're not necessarily stable you're not you're trying to make it work you're working but maybe

[00:31:14] you're overworking you're not connected with healthcare which costs money uh you're not connected

[00:31:19] with your family necessarily you might be stressed because of your family connections and things might

[00:31:23] you know you're trying to get back you're trying to come back after a long time away uh it's very

[00:31:27] important cause to me personally uh so I would have certainly loved this program but um now that it's

[00:31:32] here let's spread the word about it my man divine uh who's always on the the sort of intersection

[00:31:38] of hip-hop technology and and finance and uh those are three areas I love I love the combinations

[00:31:44] you know what I talk about here I'm a hip-hop cuz save America many faces you sick for this one

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